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dear laptop manufacturers

it's 2024. 8GB of ram isn't enough for basic browsing at this point, I know yall wanna make money n sell more devices but, a slow device that degrades due to using all of its SSD write cycles on Swap instead of ,, yknow, ram, feels blatantly anticonsumer, cheap and shitty, and dies very quickly.

so please fucking stop
I'm looking at you , hp, lenovo, apple,

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@irisnk counterpoint: 4GB of ram is enough for basic browsing, and you should be setting up zram instead of ssd swap

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@irisnk 8GB to display web pages… That was high-end gaming maybe a decade back, lol.

No shade to you of course, but what the hell has happened to web development?

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@irisnk 3 firefox tabs across 2 browsers with an ad blocker in both

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@soop@wetdry.world mhm, so don't come around saying "4gb is enough" when it clearly isnt
imagine your usual non tech savvy person
that computer is gonna die like VERY soon
and 8gb is pretty much worthless the moment you install discord/vesktop or like,, any CEF or electron app, especially codium

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@irisnk 8 GB is always enough (ok, 16 GB for 'serious' development because FUUU...)
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@irisnk What is React even doing that takes more than, like, 10MB?

It’s a state management library… Wat

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@irisnk how come it's gonna die soon. also, just use the web version of discord lmao.

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@soop@wetdry.world that helps nothing https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/

die soon because again , ssd write cycles,

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@soop@wetdry.world ??? what distro comes with zswap by default

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@irisnk fedora does actually, though their setup is quite conservative (half the ram with lzo, mine is 1.5 the ram with zstd)

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@soop@wetdry.world guess it didnt in this old install :P still, this does not spare windows and macos lol

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@irisnk windows also has memory compression but it's also really tame iirc, no idea about mac

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@soop@wetdry.world windows is arguably worse with the hiberfile and pagefile

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@irisnk /do people even know how big a single megabyte is/

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