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if you use chrome, you’re directly supporting a monopoly.

(ungoogled) chromium, edge, brave and others are still chrome.

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@graphite

Bonus points for Brave, where you are not only supporting a monopoly, but also transphobic cryptobros.

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@wakame @graphite Their CEO is a known rabid homophobe, but I didn't know about the transphobia. What's the story there?

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@lulu @graphite
Oh, sorry. Yes, technically a homophobe.
All those "-phobe" people land in the same box for me, because I normally don't remember what type of bigot anyone is. And, to be fair, all the people in that box are the same anyway.

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@wakame @graphite No worries. I'm sure they aren't any less hateful to other people, I was just wondering if there were any new shenanigans I needed to know about.

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@graphite@shonk.phite.ro pls for the love of god

REMOVE and do NOT suggest Brave. I'm sick and tired of it. Brave should be a term wiped from here.

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@graphite@shonk.phite.ro actually i wish there was a way to do a instance-wide censor of Brave on this instance.

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@asahi the homophobic shitcoin browser is still chrome :/

just… homophobic shitcoin chrome

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@graphite@shonk.phite.ro oh wait i misread the post... oops ​neocat_googly_shocked

i'm so sorry
neocat_pat_sad

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@argv_minus_one firefox is still pretty usable rn

i really hope servo becomes usable…

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@argv_minus_one in my opinion, mozilla gets what they deserve
@graphite
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@graphite i wish there was a good keyboard-only browser that wasn't qt web engine.

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@sugar @wakame @graphite
Is this all because Brendan Eich used his own money to contribute to anti-LGBT stuff like 10+ years ago?

BTW I hate brave and will never use brave. I just have somewhat less strong opinions about Eich

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@wyatt8740 @sugar @wakame

Why was appointing Eich as CEO so controversial? It’s because he donated $1,000 in support of California’s Proposition 8 in 2008, which was a proposed amendment to California’s state constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Eich wrote a blog post defending himself in 2012, when the donation was initially discovered, where did not apologize and denied the donation made him a bigot:

Ignoring the abusive comments, I’m left with charges that I hate and I’m a bigot, based solely on the donation. Now “hate” and “bigot” are well-defined words. I say these charges are false and unjust.

First, I have been online for almost 30 years. I’ve led an open source project for 14 years. I speak regularly at conferences around the world, and socialize with members of the Mozilla, JavaScript, and other web developer communities. I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity.

Second, the donation does not in itself constitute evidence of animosity. Those asserting this are not providing a reasoned argument, rather they are labeling dissenters to cast them out of polite society. To such assertions, I can only respond: “no”.

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@graphite @sugar @wakame so exactly what i said then. :p

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@graphite @sugar @wakame I just don't like the idea that because one guy did something 16 years ago the whole project is 'transphobic' or whatever.
I still think the browser is a pile of shit though

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@wyatt8740 @sugar @wakame the whole reason he founded it was because he got sorta kicked out of mozilla

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@graphite @sugar @wakame I remember when that happened, btw. I was in high school

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