GNOME that's older than me looks better than GNOME today. fight me!

@kaia i dont like gray designs

@kaia i mean you're right

@kaia GNOME 1 and 2 had nicer design. GNOME 3 and its later versions are a fucking disaster

@kaia you are right

@Jain @kaia the colours are kinda corporaye gray meh but the actual design is very to the point and easy to make out

we need woodgrain elegeance inspired ui

@kaia That does look pretty aesthetic.

@kaia if windows 3,1 and mac had a desktop baby

@kaia i disagree, this is hideous

@silhouette have you seen GNOME today? it's the most confusing thing I ever saw. it's like "did I open the app, is it still open, where is it??"

@kaia I expect your conditionless surrender!

@kaia@brotka.st
"Something good is better than something bad, fight me"
Says girl knowing full well she's stating the obvious

@kaia@brotka.st this looks like macos but more confusing lol

@kaia@brotka.st YOU'RE SO RIGHT

@kaia GNOME peaked with GNOME 2, because Sun Microsystem invested massively in making it into a commercial-level desktop environment.

@kaia @silhouette you just see the dot in that dash bar under the opened apps. Also it's definitely confusing but usually GNOME gets pretty good once you get used to the work spaces and hot corners thing that shows all the opened apps.

Also dash to dock makes gnome a lot more usable to me

@kaia hat diesen NT4-Look. eigentlich ganz nice. Leider noch nicht mit guten Bildschirmschriften ausgestattet (irgend ein Helvetica-Knockoff)

@kaia I fully agree and I miss this. I was using KDE 1 for a long time which looks quite similar.

@kaia this is much closer to perfection according to actual human/computer interaction research.

@kaia not even gonna fight you, this design goes hard af

@silhouette
It is! It didn't look cool back in the day either. But the UI designs we have today are just garbage IMO, especially what Apple dies — just looking at that is painful 😖
But the worst part with modern GNOME is that in an attempt to make it more "streamlined" they've managed to make it both garbage and way less customisable — you can't even make it look better without putting significant effort into it.
@kaia

@m0xee @kaia I'm fine with the way it looks and don't see a need to customize my desktop environment. There's always KDE/Xfce I guess

@silhouette @m0xee @kaia I'm using kde right now and it's nice

@kaia@brotka.st the icons were a lot better at least ​​

@kaia I used to enjoy Gnome, then Gnome 3 happened

@kaia I liked that GNOME, but it was sufficiently resource hungry that at the time I preferred other stuff.

@silhouette
I can see where this is coming from: you don't even think about customisation as long as you like everything and think that it's only people who have too much time on their hands do.
It was the same with me and early Mac OS X — there are some changes that you can adapt to and I did up to 10.9, but 10.10 was so bad that it made my blood boil, on my two 30" displays using it was genuinely a tiring experience.
I treasure having the option to fix things I don't like about the UI😄
@kaia

@m0xee @kaia well then Apple is probably the wrong ecosystem. I get the sentiment as well but at this point I just wanna get stuff done, and browser, terminal and messenger apps on a virtual desktop for each in GNOME works for that purpose.

@kaia The golden age of icons. Horrible for scaling and accessibility but still so deliciously looking little pieces of art.

Personally, i consider QNX as the champion of the UI art of the time, but GNOME (1 and 2) had some really good ones too.

I never found if that particular shaded style of icons, banners, throbbers etc had a name, if there was an origin artists influenced by or it was just happened.

@accela i'm pretty sure we could have somewhat better accessibility and scaling without sacrificing the appearance and customizability.
@kaia

@kaia@brotka.st Hmm, not sure to be honest. I do prefer the modern look - back in the day I also skinned GNOME 2 to look "better". But I do think, the UI design (besides aesthetics) of GNOME 3 is really good - way better than Windows, GNOME 2, KDE, ...