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really wish there were well designed laptops that aren’t old enough to be outperformed by a cheap phone

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@iska My GNUbooted thinkpad outperforms many cheap ARM SoC's.

Even if the SoC is faster, that's no good if you can't GNUboot it.
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@Suiseiseki

My GNUbooted thinkpad outperforms many cheap ARM SoC’s.
Not anymore, lmao. Core 2 duos are mogged even by the cheapest phones you can buy, not even mentioning the GPU.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/7822054
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9662387

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@iska The Framework laptop could take that place, but it's probably unobtainable in Russia and stupidly expensive anywhere outside of US anyway.
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@phnt framework is a meme, they don’t even have balls for a non-chinklet keyboard

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@iska finally, somebody said it. Laptop keyboards fucking suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. And laptops in general. I hate their batteries and hinges.
@phnt
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@iska
By well designed you mean easily serviceable or something else? 🤔

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@iska >geekbench
>Proprietary JavaScript benchmark that gives a totally bogus score (the test results are questionable).
>Compare a 2 core to a not that cheap 8 core Aarch64 SoC instead of a Core 2 Quad.
https://thonkpeasant.xyz/guides/other/comparequads.html
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@Suiseiseki

geekbench
Give me a better benchmark database running on free software.

not that cheap 8 core
This SoC is cheap enough to be in every $80-160 chinkphone, and “octa-core” has been a standard for a decade. It’s also effectively dual-core as using over 2 threads will hurt performance, so the comparison was fair

https://thonkpeasant.xyz/guides/other/comparequads.html
I didn’t know the T400 could be modded with a quad. With this, the laptop can barely match that G99 at under 2 hours of battery life!
My mid-range phone gets a score of 11201, matching the Pi 5. You could buy these for $60 (used) and $100 respectively.

And your thinkpad still cannot run OpenGL 3.3, let alone Vulkan

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@iska >Give me a better benchmark database running on free software.
Benchmarking is a fine art and there is no legitimate way to turn processing power into a simple value, so no such database exists.

Try running and using the Church of Emacs on a thinkpad vs a demon rectangle - I reckon the thinkpad will be faster.

>the laptop can barely match that G99 at under 2 hours of battery life!
I haven't had any issues with battery life, as I plug in after 15 or so minutes of usage.

>your thinkpad still cannot run OpenGL 3.3, let alone Vulkan
Big deal - software properly programmed for newer versions of OpenGL works fine with just a few less effects.

At least mesa implements OpenGL mostly correct unlike every single proprietary mobile driver.
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@Suiseiseki

Try running and using the Church of Emacs on a thinkpad vs a demon rectangle - I reckon the thinkpad will be faster.
Emacs is single-threaded, so the cheap phone will outperform the Core 2 Quad even with extra overheads. The laptop’s real advantage is having a real keyboard.

I haven’t had any issues with battery life, as I plug in after 15 or so minutes of usage.
you really just admitted you never go outside AHAHAHAHAH kekgiga

Big deal - software properly programmed for newer versions of OpenGL works fine with just a few less effects.
Try running Kandria on it

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