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@prahou I use bgcolor on my website's front page... entirely on purpose!

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@prahou Is it heretical of me to disable HTML colors to force the colors that I set instead? It was nice to have a uniform colorscheme across all pages without blinding myself.

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@kar no, that's Kierkegaard's second level of computing.

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@prahou
The body element? That is the kind of element I'm mildly interested in (🧐/🤓/☺)

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@kawa @prahou hmm, i should up my game on my site
it reads fine in links2 but it's rather plain.
Is there a way i can have html attributes that are overridden by CSS if available?
Otherwise I still can probably make it work by using a background image that's solid and one pixel for the "themes" that don't have one currently, but meh
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@wyatt @kawa

For now check out these for example: http://deadnet.se/ Apart for the animated bits it looks mostly the way it does in bloat-browser rendition.

@getimiskon 's website looks genuinely nice in links. https://getimiskon.xyz

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I am planning to release an article `making websites specifically with links in mind' soon/eventually

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@prahou i'm glad i was mentioned, because i made my last redesign specifically to look nice both on Links and on contemporary web browsers.
The tip is to use "deprecated" HTML tags. Sometimes they work much better than CSS, specifically when it comes to centering stuff.
@wyatt @kawa
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@getimiskon @kawa @wyatt

Yeah... you're not getting a youtube play button for valid html from the Big-W3, if you want your website to looks nice in links...

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@prahou i don't care what a validator says anymore (except from the bug meter in dillo, that's neat). If it works well on the browsers i put my pages at, it's fine.
It's so sad that most websites look plain on Links, while it's perfectly capable of displaying nice pages with a bit of effort.
@kawa @wyatt
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@prahou @getimiskon @wyatt You can however get a "Classic HTML, Sane and Simple" button from me, for what it's worth! Just follow these simple steps:

https://helmet.kafuka.org/sanehtml.md

(May not include actual steps.)

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@kawa @prahou @wyatt that's neat, i didn't know about it
(although reading about it, i realized my website isn't sane neocat_googly_woozy)
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@getimiskon @kawa @prahou @wyatt
For them to be comparable, css should have a way to actually center a div inside a div(it doesn't).

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@void @kawa @prahou @wyatt
Centering stuff with CSS feels like a hack, and those who say that <center> is deprecated and CSS is better are lying. That's my opinion at least.
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@getimiskon @kawa @prahou @wyatt
I have been making websites for money(i won't call myself w slur) for 3-4 months and i actually have issues with vertical centering in every single div i make that has to look it is properly centered.
This isn't a 'new web bad' post, there is not proper way to vertically center 2 divs inside a div. you put 2 divs inside another div and center that div(inside the actual div you want to center the 2 divs in) and it... doesn't.
I just want to rant a bit, sory.

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@void i get it, it sounds painful. It's ridiculous that an issue that's already solved in the past stays unsolved without a reason.
@kawa @prahou @wyatt
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