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getimiskon
You may disagree with my opinion, but I still prefer to install FL Studio on Linux to mess with samples and stuff like that. I love LMMS, but it lacks quite a few features I like using.
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Pinko Palest
pinkopalest@electricrequiem.com@getimiskon wow, I’ll try to learn this by heart so I can impress people!
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@getimiskon I 100% agree
FL Studio do be the best option for sequencer type beats. Wish LMMS was more capable
FL Studio do be the best option for sequencer type beats. Wish LMMS was more capable
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@pinkopalest FL Studio is a nice tool for music production. It's not very expensive (and you can easily find cracked versions of it 
), yet it's quite nice.
), yet it's quite nice.
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@dendy I have some audio issues sometimes, but it works pretty well. Maybe I'll eventually mess with pipewire and wine to get a way around it.
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@dendy @getimiskon I'm sorry, it's not an opinion to surrender your freedom to proprietary malware for mere convenience, that's cuckery.
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@Suiseiseki I know it fucking sucks to use proprietary software, and I prefer to avoid it. But let's be real, audio applications have always been quite a bit of pain on Linux. For example, the sampler on LMMS lacks quite a few useful features.
@dendy
@dendy
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@getimiskon @dendy @Suiseiseki im making my own thing as a project to support myself in the process of learning music theory
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@laru yeah, working with audio isn't just a simple thing. You may need specific tools and plugins for your own stuff, and some programs will work better for your purpose than others.
@dendy @Suiseiseki
@dendy @Suiseiseki
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@getimiskon >I prefer to avoid it.
But you don't actually end up avoiding it, even when a suitable free software replacement exists that is only slightly less convenient?
>audio applications have always been quite a bit of pain on Linux.
ALSA works just fine in my experience.
On systemd/Linux, you're in for some audio pain, sure.
>the sampler on LMMS lacks quite a few useful features.
Good thing it's free software, so you can add the features yourself, pay someone to implement them or submit a feature request.
But you don't actually end up avoiding it, even when a suitable free software replacement exists that is only slightly less convenient?
>audio applications have always been quite a bit of pain on Linux.
ALSA works just fine in my experience.
On systemd/Linux, you're in for some audio pain, sure.
>the sampler on LMMS lacks quite a few useful features.
Good thing it's free software, so you can add the features yourself, pay someone to implement them or submit a feature request.
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@getimiskon @dendy @Suiseiseki i mean ive never made any music before and i think this will work for me, while im learning at least
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@Suiseiseki
>But you don't actually end up avoiding it, even when a suitable free software replacement exists that is only slightly less convenient?
I guess I could try something like that on Ardour, never really tried it there (also it feels clunky). You may be right, there might be a piece of software that does that right.
>On systemd/Linux, you're in for some audio pain, sure.
I don't even use systemd on my system. So far, pipewire is alright, it works very nicely with applications that work with JACK. ALSA isn't that great for low-latency stuff, like recordings.
As for LMMS itself, it's getting improved quite a bit (they recently added some neat plugins), but still needs work to use. I could try adding the features, but I'm not good at programming.
From your post, I can clearly see you haven't worked with audio before.
>But you don't actually end up avoiding it, even when a suitable free software replacement exists that is only slightly less convenient?
I guess I could try something like that on Ardour, never really tried it there (also it feels clunky). You may be right, there might be a piece of software that does that right.
>On systemd/Linux, you're in for some audio pain, sure.
I don't even use systemd on my system. So far, pipewire is alright, it works very nicely with applications that work with JACK. ALSA isn't that great for low-latency stuff, like recordings.
As for LMMS itself, it's getting improved quite a bit (they recently added some neat plugins), but still needs work to use. I could try adding the features, but I'm not good at programming.
From your post, I can clearly see you haven't worked with audio before.
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@getimiskon >something like that on Ardour
Ardour probably will do everything you want, but I haven't used it before.
>pipewire is alright, it works very nicely with applications that work with JACK. ALSA isn't that great for low-latency stuff, like recordings.
The backend for pipewire and JACK is ALSA you know?
I've found raw ALSA to be so low-latency that it overcomes poorly designed PCIe firewire cards.
>I can clearly see you haven't worked with audio before.
I work with audio with straight ffmpeg sometimes.
Ardour probably will do everything you want, but I haven't used it before.
>pipewire is alright, it works very nicely with applications that work with JACK. ALSA isn't that great for low-latency stuff, like recordings.
The backend for pipewire and JACK is ALSA you know?
I've found raw ALSA to be so low-latency that it overcomes poorly designed PCIe firewire cards.
>I can clearly see you haven't worked with audio before.
I work with audio with straight ffmpeg sometimes.
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@Suiseiseki @getimiskon
just build it from source, I don't quite get why they haven't published any binary releases for so long
just build it from source, I don't quite get why they haven't published any binary releases for so long
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@mononoaware I hope it doesn't require a fuckton of dependencies to build
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@getimiskon lmms-git in AUR or their provided build deps lists for RPM/DEB/Arch, on other distros just pipe to fzf with -m flag to make things easier
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@getimiskon ok seeing now you use void, well even it's the musl version I had no issues on Alpine, maybe some vsts won't work though
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gettie ( arc)
getimiskon
@mononoaware I use the version with the GNU coreutils, but still I don't want to deal with building them from source. I already use a nightly version.
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