ugh, the state of gui toolkits on linux is just sad
the nice:
the not nice:
at this point we’re basically competing with windows for how many GUI toolkits will “coexist” on a single platform
xdg pls harmonize this shit thanks
@novenary opportunity to hate on GIMP detected
deploying rage with the power of ten thousand suns;!!
@jackemled @novenary hey they've been planning to release gimp 3.0 with gtk3 for like 1 or 2 months, they apparently just fucked up their schedule :/
@schrottkatze @novenary I don't know what that means. GIMP is just bad. It's like "oh yeah you can do ANYTHING with this tool" & then you can actually only cut & paste & the other buttons are just decoration. Yes, you can do anything just by cutting & pasting, but that's extremely tedious & difficult & you shouldn't do it that way.
@jackemled @novenary ...what?
gimp 3.0 = next major version
and yes you can do a lot more? (but yes, the UX is abysmal)
@schrottkatze @novenary I don't know what gtk is & I don't think it matters here. GIMP only cuts & pastes, the other buttons don't do anything. If you select the paintbrush tool it usually doesn't do anything, unless you get really lucky, then it colors a few pixels, but only once & you have to restart GIMP to get more pixels to color. Be careful not to make any mistakes because the eraser doesn't work at all.
@jackemled @novenary
(mentioned that (gtk3) because this thread was about ui toolkits and mentioned GIMP bc it still currently uses gtk2... anyway)
that is certainly a new one.
the buttons work fine for me with (to my knowledge after using gimp for a few years) 2 exceptions buried in a few submenus
would you be interested in trying to figure out what might cause this?
@jackemled @novenary (also don't get me wrong, i don't like gimp, it has a fuckload of problems all over the place. but that's something that i've never seen before, usually it works okay in my experience)
@jackemled @novenary nobody cares about your irrelevant opinion either, so
@novenary @getimiskon technically budgie is going to use EFL for some reason. i dont know why anyone would use that, looking at Enlightenment i just see a goofy ass desktop environment that shouldnt have been around since 2010 but still is somehow?? and it supports wayland?? and honestly looks kinda cool but its been too buggy every time i tried it;;;
and i have honestly not seen anyone use it ever and ive seen people use fucking windowmaker… (absolutely subjective observation)
welp i suppose the reason would be because samsung is supporting it, and using EFL in their embedded stuff where usually qt is used but qt is really expensive to use commercially (look at their automotive licensing :3) and efl is presumably free